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Old Mine, Great Orme, Llandudno, Conwy, Wales, UKi
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Old MineMine (Abandoned)
Great OrmeHeadland
LlandudnoCommunity
ConwyCounty Borough
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View of the Llandudno copper mining area, ca. 1930.

Old Mine, Great Orme, Llandudno, Conwy, Wales, UK
Latitude & Longitude (WGS84):
53° 19' 48'' North , 3° 50' 44'' West
Latitude & Longitude (decimal):
UK National Grid Reference:
SH771831
Type:
Mine (Abandoned) - last checked 2020
KΓΆppen climate type:
Nearest Settlements:
PlacePopulationDistance
Llandudno15,371 (2017)1.1km
Deganwy9,429 (2011)3.1km
Conwy3,873 (2017)5.6km
Llansantffraid Glan Conwy1,862 (2016)7.7km
Colwyn Bay34,284 (2017)8.8km
Mindat Locality ID:
4814
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:2:4814:2
GUID (UUID V4):
0
Other/historical names associated with this locality:
Gwynedd; Caernarvonshire


Old Mine was the largest of the three Gt Orme copper mines and accesses very important Bronze Age workings for copper (malachite and azurite).

The bronze age mines exploited horizontal galleries up to 50m in length and to a depth of approximately 65m in which firesetting had been used to extend the workings. Stone and bone tools (see bone scraper in site photos) found in the mines show possible calibrated age-ranges for sample materials from 1410 - 1070 BC.

Although the first documentation to mine on the Bishop of Bangor's land is in 1738, the principal period of working was in the 1800s. Initially not very profitable, conditions had improved by the 1830s and between 1836 and 1845 the mine sold ore amounting to Β£111,905. Although working largely finished in 1864, it continued on a very small scale until 1877 when the lease was finally surrendered as Llandudno developed as a tourist resort.

Working was via various shafts including Treweek (ST7701 8327), Vivian's (ST7708 8309), and Romans (ST7707 8332), and from the Penmorfa Adit (SH7709 8223) opened in 1842 whose portal lies on the West Shore. Although driven primarily to dewater the flooded adjacent New Mine (and mainly financed by the New Mine), the adit was jointly owned and accesses extensive workings on both the Old and the New Mines.

Traces of the long, jointed, wooden flatrod system that connected a water-engine at Ffynnon Gogarth on the West Shore with pumps at the Old Mine remain one of the most distinctive landscape features of the Orme.

The Great Orme Exploration Society website http://www.goes.org.uk has much information about, and photographs of, the three Gt Orme mines.

NB many collectors are unaware that there are two mines here and have erroneously called the whole area "Gt Orme Mine"). In recent years there has also been considerable movement at surface, which further adds to the location problem. Unless a specimen comes from underground (or from the considerable material cleared from Old Mine in recent years), it is difficult to precisely ascribe a specimen to a particular mine.

A visitor centre (NGR SH7706 8305) is open during the summer months and both surface and underground workings can be visited, The latter, a self-guided tour, is centered around Vivian's shaft which was driven through the bronze age workings is highly recommended.


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Standard Detailed Gallery Strunz Chemical Elements

Mineral List


25 valid minerals.

Detailed Mineral List:

β“˜ Annabergite
Formula: Ni3(AsO4)2 · 8H2O
β“˜ Azurite
Formula: Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2
β“˜ Calcite
Formula: CaCO3
β“˜ Cerussite
Formula: PbCO3
β“˜ Chalcocite
Formula: Cu2S
β“˜ Chalcopyrite
Formula: CuFeS2
β“˜ Covellite
Formula: CuS
β“˜ Cuprite
Formula: Cu2O
β“˜ Digenite
Formula: Cu9S5
β“˜ Djurleite
Formula: Cu31S16
β“˜ Dolomite
Formula: CaMg(CO3)2
β“˜ Enargite
Formula: Cu3AsS4
β“˜ 'Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series'
β“˜ Galena
Formula: PbS
β“˜ Gersdorffite
Formula: NiAsS
β“˜ Goethite
Formula: Fe3+O(OH)
β“˜ 'Limonite'
β“˜ Linnaeite
Formula: Co2+Co3+2S4
β“˜ Malachite
Formula: Cu2(CO3)(OH)2
β“˜ Marcasite
Formula: FeS2
β“˜ Millerite
Formula: NiS
β“˜ Native Copper
Formula: Cu
β“˜ Pyrite
Formula: FeS2
β“˜ Pyrite var. Bravoite
Formula: (Fe,Ni)S2
β“˜ Siegenite
Formula: CoNi2S4
β“˜ Sphalerite
Formula: ZnS
β“˜ Spionkopite
Formula: Cu39S28
β“˜ 'Tennantite Subgroup'
Formula: Cu6(Cu4C2+2)As4S12S
β“˜ Tenorite
Formula: CuO
β“˜ 'Wad'

List of minerals arranged by Strunz 10th Edition classification

Group 1 - Elements
β“˜Native Copper1.AA.05Cu
Group 2 - Sulphides and Sulfosalts
β“˜Chalcocite2.BA.05Cu2S
β“˜Djurleite2.BA.05Cu31S16
β“˜Digenite2.BA.10Cu9S5
β“˜Covellite2.CA.05aCuS
β“˜Spionkopite2.CA.05cCu39S28
β“˜Sphalerite2.CB.05aZnS
β“˜Chalcopyrite2.CB.10aCuFeS2
β“˜Millerite2.CC.20NiS
β“˜Galena2.CD.10PbS
β“˜Linnaeite2.DA.05Co2+Co3+2S4
β“˜Siegenite2.DA.05CoNi2S4
β“˜Pyrite
var. Bravoite
2.EB.05a(Fe,Ni)S2
β“˜2.EB.05aFeS2
β“˜Marcasite2.EB.10aFeS2
β“˜Gersdorffite2.EB.25NiAsS
β“˜'Tennantite Subgroup'2.GB.05Cu6(Cu4C2+2)As4S12S
β“˜Enargite2.KA.05Cu3AsS4
Group 4 - Oxides and Hydroxides
β“˜Goethite4.00.Fe3+O(OH)
β“˜Cuprite4.AA.10Cu2O
β“˜Tenorite4.AB.10CuO
Group 5 - Nitrates and Carbonates
β“˜Calcite5.AB.05CaCO3
β“˜Dolomite5.AB.10CaMg(CO3)2
β“˜Cerussite5.AB.15PbCO3
β“˜Azurite5.BA.05Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2
β“˜Malachite5.BA.10Cu2(CO3)(OH)2
Group 8 - Phosphates, Arsenates and Vanadates
β“˜Annabergite8.CE.40Ni3(AsO4)2 Β· 8H2O
Unclassified
β“˜'Limonite'-
β“˜'Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series'-
β“˜'Wad'-

List of minerals for each chemical element

HHydrogen
Hβ“˜ AnnabergiteNi3(AsO4)2 · 8H2O
Hβ“˜ AzuriteCu3(CO3)2(OH)2
Hβ“˜ GoethiteFe3+O(OH)
Hβ“˜ MalachiteCu2(CO3)(OH)2
Hβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
BBoron
Bβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
CCarbon
Cβ“˜ AzuriteCu3(CO3)2(OH)2
Cβ“˜ CalciteCaCO3
Cβ“˜ CerussitePbCO3
Cβ“˜ DolomiteCaMg(CO3)2
Cβ“˜ MalachiteCu2(CO3)(OH)2
OOxygen
Oβ“˜ AnnabergiteNi3(AsO4)2 · 8H2O
Oβ“˜ AzuriteCu3(CO3)2(OH)2
Oβ“˜ CalciteCaCO3
Oβ“˜ CerussitePbCO3
Oβ“˜ CupriteCu2O
Oβ“˜ DolomiteCaMg(CO3)2
Oβ“˜ GoethiteFe3+O(OH)
Oβ“˜ MalachiteCu2(CO3)(OH)2
Oβ“˜ TenoriteCuO
Oβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
FFluorine
Fβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
MgMagnesium
Mgβ“˜ DolomiteCaMg(CO3)2
Mgβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
AlAluminium
Alβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
SiSilicon
Siβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
SSulfur
Sβ“˜ Pyrite var. Bravoite(Fe,Ni)S2
Sβ“˜ ChalcopyriteCuFeS2
Sβ“˜ ChalcociteCu2S
Sβ“˜ CovelliteCuS
Sβ“˜ DigeniteCu9S5
Sβ“˜ DjurleiteCu31S16
Sβ“˜ EnargiteCu3AsS4
Sβ“˜ GalenaPbS
Sβ“˜ GersdorffiteNiAsS
Sβ“˜ LinnaeiteCo2+Co23+S4
Sβ“˜ MarcasiteFeS2
Sβ“˜ MilleriteNiS
Sβ“˜ PyriteFeS2
Sβ“˜ SiegeniteCoNi2S4
Sβ“˜ SphaleriteZnS
Sβ“˜ SpionkopiteCu39S28
Sβ“˜ Tennantite SubgroupCu6(Cu4C22+)As4S12S
CaCalcium
Caβ“˜ CalciteCaCO3
Caβ“˜ DolomiteCaMg(CO3)2
Caβ“˜ Fluor-uvite-Uvite Series
FeIron
Feβ“˜ Pyrite var. Bravoite(Fe,Ni)S2
Feβ“˜ ChalcopyriteCuFeS2
Feβ“˜ GoethiteFe3+O(OH)
Feβ“˜ MarcasiteFeS2
Feβ“˜ PyriteFeS2
CoCobalt
Coβ“˜ LinnaeiteCo2+Co23+S4
Coβ“˜ SiegeniteCoNi2S4
NiNickel
Niβ“˜ AnnabergiteNi3(AsO4)2 · 8H2O
Niβ“˜ Pyrite var. Bravoite(Fe,Ni)S2
Niβ“˜ GersdorffiteNiAsS
Niβ“˜ MilleriteNiS
Niβ“˜ SiegeniteCoNi2S4
CuCopper
Cuβ“˜ AzuriteCu3(CO3)2(OH)2
Cuβ“˜ ChalcopyriteCuFeS2
Cuβ“˜ ChalcociteCu2S
Cuβ“˜ CovelliteCuS
Cuβ“˜ CupriteCu2O
Cuβ“˜ Native CopperCu
Cuβ“˜ DigeniteCu9S5
Cuβ“˜ DjurleiteCu31S16
Cuβ“˜ EnargiteCu3AsS4
Cuβ“˜ MalachiteCu2(CO3)(OH)2
Cuβ“˜ SpionkopiteCu39S28
Cuβ“˜ Tennantite SubgroupCu6(Cu4C22+)As4S12S
Cuβ“˜ TenoriteCuO
ZnZinc
Znβ“˜ SphaleriteZnS
AsArsenic
Asβ“˜ AnnabergiteNi3(AsO4)2 · 8H2O
Asβ“˜ EnargiteCu3AsS4
Asβ“˜ GersdorffiteNiAsS
Asβ“˜ Tennantite SubgroupCu6(Cu4C22+)As4S12S
PbLead
Pbβ“˜ CerussitePbCO3
Pbβ“˜ GalenaPbS

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