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Unnamed (Ba-Sb Silicate-Sulphate-Hydroxide-Hydrate)

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Formula:
Ba3Sb5+[(Si,S)O3(OH)]2(OH,O)6 · 3H2O
Approximate formula. Impurity elements detected: Ca, Fe.
Crystal System:
Trigonal
Anthropogenic phase found in slag.
The structure has been solved.


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Unique IdentifiersHide

Mindat ID:
43457
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:43457:7

Classification of Unnamed (Ba-Sb Silicate-Sulphate-Hydroxide-Hydrate)Hide

Strunz-mindat (2025):
7.DF.17

7 : SULFATES (selenates, tellurates, chromates, molybdates, wolframates)
D : Sulfates (selenates, etc.) with additional anions, with H2O
F : With large and medium-sized cations

Chemistry of Unnamed (Ba-Sb Silicate-Sulphate-Hydroxide-Hydrate)Hide

Mindat Formula:
Ba3Sb5+[(Si,S)O3(OH)]2(OH,O)6 · 3H2O

Approximate formula. Impurity elements detected: Ca, Fe.
Element Weights:
Element% weight
Ba47.029 %
O31.049 %
Sb13.899 %
Si6.412 %
H1.611 %

Calculated from ideal end-member formula.
Elements listed:
Ba, H, O, S, Sb, Si - search for minerals with similar chemistry

Crystallography of Unnamed (Ba-Sb Silicate-Sulphate-Hydroxide-Hydrate)Hide

Crystal System:
Trigonal
Class (H-M):
3 - Rhombohedral
Space Group:
P3
Cell Parameters:
a = 8.810(1) Å, c = 11.776(2) Å
Ratio:
a:c = 1 : 1.337
Unit Cell V:
791.55 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Twinning:
On (001).

Relationship of Unnamed (Ba-Sb Silicate-Sulphate-Hydroxide-Hydrate) to other SpeciesHide

Member of:
Fleischerite Group
Other Members of Fleischerite Group:
DespujolsiteCa3Mn4+(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6 m2 : P62c
FleischeritePb3Ge(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc
GenplesiteCa3Sn(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc
MallestigitePb3Sb5+(SO4)(AsO4)(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6 : P63
SchaurteiteCa3Ge(SO4)2(OH)6 · 4H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc

Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat GroupingHide

7.DF.Siligiite [Pb(H2O)5(SO4)][Zn9(OH)18]Mon. 2/m : P21/b
7.DF.AlcaparrosaiteK3Ti4+Fe3+(SO4)4O(H2O)2Mon. 2/m : B2/b
7.DF.FlaggitePb4Cu2+4Te6+2(SO4)2O11(OH)2(H2O)Tric. 1 : P1
7.DF.BairditePb2Cu2+4Te6+2O10(OH)2(SO4) · H2OMon. 2/m : P21/b
7.DF.TzeferisiteCaZn8(SO4)2(OH)12Cl2(H2O)9Trig. 3m (3 2/m) : R3c
7.DF.Cherokeeite[Pb2Zn(OH)4](SO4) · H2OMon. 2/m
7.DF.Ammoniomathesiusite(NH4)5(UO2)4(SO4)4(VO5) · 4H2OTet. 4/m : P4/n
7.DF.Sigogglinite[Pb6Zn(OH)8](SO4)3 · 3H2OMon. 2/m : P2/m
7.DF.XBlueridgeite[Pb8Zn3Cu2+(OH)16](SO4)2(S2O3)2 · 2H2OMon. 2/m : P21/b
7.DF.ErssoniteMg7Fe3+2(OH)18[Ca(H2O)6](SO4)2 · 12H2OTrig. 3m (3 2/m) : P3c1
7.DF.PoellmanniteCa6Al3(OH)18[Na(H2O)6](SO4)2 · 6H2OTrig. 3 : R3
7.DF.Carlsonite(NH4)5Fe3+3O(SO4)6 · 7H2OTric. 1 : P1
7.DF.Aldridgeite(Cd,Ca)(Cu,Zn)4(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2O Mon. 2/m : B2/b
7.DF.Cuprocherokeeite[Pb8Zn3Cu2+(OH)16](SO4)4 · 4H2OMon. 2/m
7.DF.Haywoodite[Pb(H2O)10][Zn12(OH)20(H2O)(SO4)3]Tric. 1 : P1
7.DF.ChromschieffelinitePb10Te6+6O20(OH)14(CrO4)(H2O)5Orth. 2 2 2 : C2 2 21
7.DF.05UklonskoviteNaMg(SO4)F · 2H2OMon. 2/m : P21/m
7.DF.10KainiteKMg(SO4)Cl · 3H2OMon. 2/m : B2/m
7.DF.10KaliochalciteKCu2(SO4)2[(OH)(H2O)]Mon. 2/m : B2/m
7.DF.15NatrochalciteNaCu2(SO4)2(OH) · 2H2OMon. 2/m : B2/m
7.DF.17GenplesiteCa3Sn(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc
7.DF.20SideronatriteNa2Fe(SO4)2(OH) · 3H2OOrth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 21
7.DF.20MetasideronatriteNa2Fe(SO4)2(OH) · H2OOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
7.DF.25FleischeritePb3Ge(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc
7.DF.25MallestigitePb3Sb5+(SO4)(AsO4)(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6 : P63
7.DF.25SchaurteiteCa3Ge(SO4)2(OH)6 · 4H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc
7.DF.25DespujolsiteCa3Mn4+(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2OHex. 6 m2 : P62c
7.DF.30Slavíkite(H3O+)3Mg6Fe15(SO4)21(OH)18 · 98H2OTrig. 3 : R3
7.DF.35MetavoltineK2Na6Fe2+Fe3+6O2(SO4)12 · 18H2OTrig.
7.DF.40LannoniteMg2Ca4Al4(SO4)8F8 · 24H2OTet. 4/m : I4/m
7.DF.40VlodavetsiteAlCa2(SO4)2F2Cl · 4H2OTet. 4/m : I4/m
7.DF.45PeretaiteCa(SbO)4(SO4)2(OH)2 · 2H2OMon. 2/m : B2/b
7.DF.50GordaiteNaZn4(SO4)(OH)6Cl · 6H2OTrig. 3 : P3
7.DF.50CalamaiteNa2TiO(SO4)2 · 2H2O Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Ibam
7.DF.52Huizingite-(Al)[(NH4)9(SO4)2][(Al,Fe3+)3(OH)2(H2O)4(SO4)6]Tric. 1 : P1
7.DF.52ScordariiteK8(Fe3+0.67◻0.33)[Fe3+3O(SO4)6]2 · 14H2OTrig. 3 : R3
7.DF.55Clairite(NH4)2Fe3(SO4)4(OH)3 · 3H2OTric.
7.DF.55GiacovazzoiteK5Fe3+3O(SO4)6 · 10H2OMon. 2/m : P21/b
7.DF.57MagnanelliiteK3Fe3+2(SO4)4(OH)(H2O)2Mon. 2/m : B2/b
7.DF.60ArzruniteCu4Pb2(SO4)(OH)4Cl6 · 2H2O (?)Orth.
7.DF.60EvdokimoviteTl4(VO)3(SO4)5(H2O)5Mon. 2/m
7.DF.62Bridgesite-(Ce)CaCe2Cu6(SO4)4(OH)12 · 8H2OMon. 2/m : B2/m
7.DF.65ElyitePb4Cu(SO4)O2(OH)4 · H2OMon. 2/m : P21/b
7.DF.70YecoraiteFe3+3Bi5(Te6+O4)2(Te4+O3)O9 · 9H2O
7.DF.70LautenthalitePbCu4(SO4)2(OH)6 · 3H2OMon. 2/m : P21/b
7.DF.75RiomarinaiteBi(SO4)(OH) · H2OMon. 2/m
7.DF.80DukeiteBi3+24Cr6+8O57(OH)6 · 3H2OTrig. 3m : P3 1c

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Austria
 
  • Carinthia
    • Sankt Veit an der Glan District
      • Guttaring
        • Waitschach
Kolitsch et al. (2013)
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